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  •  05-22-2012, 2:06 PM 957401
    J McMillin J McMillin is not online. Last active: 03-11-2014, 1:01 AM
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    Subject: Best Units of every Type

    So i've seen a few threads similar to this but never a complete one. What are the BEST units of every type. musk-like units, skirm-like units etc.

    Musketeer-Like Units 1 Ashigura 2 Jannisary 3 Sepoy

    honorable mention, tomahawk (i consider them musk like unit)

    Skirmisher Like Units 1 Abus 2 Forest Prowler 3 Wakina (wakina are much weaker without war chief/ tepee) honorable mention, Cassadore (maybe better then wakina?)

    Hand Infantry - 1 Samurai 2 Dopple 3 Skull Knight

    Honorable Mention Jaguar Prowl. they maybe should be up there instead of skull knight, you can train them, they have 2x bonus vs cavalry, light infantry, and heavy infantry, and theyre stealthy  

    Ranged Cavalry 1 Rifle Rider 2 Bow Rider 3 Jinete Dragoons

    honorable mention tartar cavalry archers (i'm not counting howdahs)

    Heavy Cavalry 1 Gendrame 2 Dog Soldier 3 Lancer

    honorable mention, spahi

    Hussar like unit 1 Axe Rider 2 Uhlan 3 Life Guard Hussars

    Honorable Mention- Naginta Riders or Gardener Hussars

    Native Warriors 1 Inca 2 Seminole 3 Cheyenne

    Honorable Mention, Tupi 

    Mercenaries 1 Ronin 2 Fusileer 3 Black Rider

    Honorable Mentin, highlander

    what do you guys think? 


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  •  05-22-2012, 2:31 PM 957405 in reply to 957401
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    Subject: Re: Best Units of every Type

    Dopples are better than sam and abus are not that good, wakina would be the best in theory then fp. Massive tie between france skirm/cass/spanish skirm. so we can leave it at wakina/fp.

    I would argue that sepoy are better than jannisaries.

     Dog soldiers are better than gendarmes,

    uhlans are not that good so i would say naginata riders over them, they can get like 900 hp and crazy attack vs ranged inf.

    mercs would be mamelukes in supremacy no doubt.

  •  05-22-2012, 2:40 PM 957407 in reply to 957401
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    Subject: Re: Best Units of every Type

    my changes for treaty(best units are different for sup and treaty)

    Musketeer-Like Units 1 Ashigura 2 jani 3.sepoy(after cheAper jani card)

    Skirmisher Like Units 1.wakina 2. Abus 3. Forest Prowler (why will u play sioux without teppe aura,  and if u considered albus as pure ski like unit)

    Hand Infantry - 1 hatamoto Samurai 2 Dopple 3 Skull Knight

    Ranged Cavalry 1 Rifle Rider 2 Bow Rider 3 Jinete Dragoons/howdaw

    ( but if u only consider effectiveness vs hand cav than bow r>rr , butt rr is multipurpose, howdah also has ranged cav tag)

    Heavy Cavalry(special) 1.saphi, 2. Gendrame 3.Dog Soldier 4.Lancer

    Hussar like unit 1 Axe Rider 2. Life Guard Hussars, 3.naginata

     

    mercenaries 1.hatamoto 


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  •  05-22-2012, 2:42 PM 957408 in reply to 957407
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    Subject: Re: Best Units of every Type
    i forgot mamelukes. i rarely use saloon since everything costs like 500 coin and 10 pop lol. base attack dogs are better but theres more cards for gendrames. dog soldiers are insane vs infantry though and obviously if your considering actual effectiveness gendrames win since you can actually train them

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  •  05-22-2012, 2:50 PM 957411 in reply to 957408
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    Subject: Re: Best Units of every Type
    gend is better they have area demage , which make them better vs every thing(except buildings) in compare to dog, unless u use that card that make dog more deadly to infantry , but none use that card

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  •  05-22-2012, 3:26 PM 957418 in reply to 957411
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    Subject: Re: Best Units of every Type

    Abus can't compete with forest prowler or even cassadore level since its 2 population. Dogs are better than gendarme in terms of a unit (which is what the thread is about?) they have over 1400 hp.

  •  05-22-2012, 3:29 PM 957419 in reply to 957418
    Lukas_L99 Lukas_L99 is not online. Last active: 01-19-2014, 5:55 PM
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    Subject: Re: Best Units of every Type
    And I think Spahi>Gendarme

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  •  05-22-2012, 3:44 PM 957422 in reply to 957419
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    Subject: Re: Best Units of every Type

    in sup abus wreck all and since this is general discussion ...

    Also I'd doubt placing wakina too high because you must take into account that getting them to be so good also costs you a ton of wood.. 


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  •  05-22-2012, 3:44 PM 957423 in reply to 957419
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    Subject: Re: Best Units of every Type

    Does this factor in mods as well? if no, then the rifleman and grenzer from napoleonic era are awesome

    Imperial Royal Green Jacket(rifleman)

    HP 270 

    Attack 72 4x infantry 2x light cavalry

    speed 5

    resist .3 range

    cost: 120 food 100 coin (Uber expensive, like doppel)

     

    Grenzer have bad hp and attack but can train additional grenzers instantly and feature a unique 4x ranged bonus vs artillery(for infantry, i mean) they also have a 3x bonus vs infantry(Same bonus as lancer) plus they can go invisible

    In this mod, mercenaries can also be upgraded to imperial, which makes them worth using.

     

    If not, forest prowlers are what i think are best


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  •  05-22-2012, 4:32 PM 957427 in reply to 957423
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    Subject: Re: Best Units of every Type

    1400hp and 89 attack(with war dance) vs 1100hp and 63x2(126) attack , i will prefer gend as a unit(base stat), 

    but vs inf dog is better due to 1.5 multipler


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  •  05-22-2012, 8:55 PM 957434 in reply to 957427
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    Subject: Re: Best Units of every Type

    i forgot archers

    1 Cho Ko Nu 2 longbow 3 yumi

    honorable mention: arrow knight, only against buildings though


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  •  05-23-2012, 5:56 AM 957450 in reply to 957434
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    Subject: Re: Best Units of every Type
    I genuinely love Yumi archers the most of those tbh.. wonder if they aren't simply stronger than CKN.

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  •  05-23-2012, 10:35 AM 957456 in reply to 957434
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    Subject: Re: Best Units of every Type
    J McMillin:

    honorable mention: arrow knight, only against buildings though

    and artillery. . .

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  •  05-23-2012, 12:17 PM 957466 in reply to 957434
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    Subject: Re: Best Units of every Type
    J McMillin:

    i forgot archers

    1 Cho Ko Nu 2 longbow 3 yumi

    honorable mention: arrow knight, only against buildings though

    Why are chukonu strong? ive seen them get only 15 attack fully upgraded (16 with tupi/carib)

    Veteran crossbows/besterio have more attack than them(20+)


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  •  05-23-2012, 1:16 PM 957469 in reply to 957466
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    Subject: Re: Best Units of every Type

    cn can have 17 attack with cards , ckn have rof 1 , crossbow/longbow have rof 1.5, yumi has rof 3

    effectively ckn can have 17x3 , crossbow=20x2 , attack  


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