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What is the general order in difficulty of booms?

Iroquois is the hardest civ to boom with, you have to cow boom manage a fire-pit and the over population as well also time the fur trade correctly and you need alot of wood.

All the natives i think have hard boom but many people say hardest is Iroquois, but fighting with these civs is even harder in some cases.

 

Hey willie you on? what is your eso

Yea I had a basic idea of what civ was the hardest but what I am really asking is what booms are better to learn first and work your way up to say, a cow boom.  In my case, I would love to be able to efficiently cow boom with the Brits but as everyone is aware they require an intense amount of micro, so what booms would somewhat prepare me for the amount of micro required?

any civ that doesn't require anything weird (cows, firepit, sacred fields etc is going to be the easiest) probably ports and spain are about as easy as itets, Iroquois generally acknowledged as the hardest 

If you want to cow-boom then use British first so you learn how to boom, :) then use India so you learn how to fur-trade then you can play Iroquois or if you want some firepit practice use Sioux or Aztec. Imo the best way to learn is sink or swim.
British is a great civ though because you have the manors that give villagers and you got wood trade so you can get lots of yewbows.
Easiest civ has got to be French or Portuguese

My game name is TacticalWillie :) I'm won't be online till Thursday though

For once willie gave reasonably useful advice.  "Learning fur trade" is easy though. All you need to do is not gather coin and only gather food once you have all food upgrades (still get whatever wood you need though). Save a card and send fur trade with 4-5 minutes left in treaty.

I'd change his advice slightly to say you should learn one other civ's boom really well before playing brit, because getting used to vill distrib and herding micro will make it a smaller jump to cow micro. Then play brit until you can get 2400+ with them (you have to be really good with cowing to have even a chance with iro) Iro is hard partly because of firepit micro and partly because farms are big and work as both fattening areas and food gathering, so its easy to mess up placement and get cows/sheep not tasked to a farm or get vills stuck trying to get to them.

Thranduil81:

For once willie gave reasonably useful advice.  "Learning fur trade" is easy though. All you need to do is not gather coin and only gather food once you have all food upgrades (still get whatever wood you need though). Save a card and send fur trade with 4-5 minutes left in treaty.

I'd change his advice slightly to say you should learn one other civ's boom really well before playing brit, because getting used to vill distrib and herding micro will make it a smaller jump to cow micro. Then play brit until you can get 2400+ with them (you have to be really good with cowing to have even a chance with iro) Iro is hard partly because of firepit micro and partly because farms are big and work as both fattening areas and food gathering, so its easy to mess up placement and get cows/sheep not tasked to a farm or get vills stuck trying to get to them.

Well with furtrade you really have to have a good idea when to use it exactly, because if you send it at the wrong time you won't get enough gold to get through IV and V age and have enough left over to get the Imperial Capital upgrades.

brit boom gets you started with cow/sheep, then move on to china, then iroq.

when i used to play nilla, sheep-booming was pretty good got me 20k extra food as britiain.

TacticalWillie:

Thranduil81:

For once willie gave reasonably useful advice.  "Learning fur trade" is easy though. All you need to do is not gather coin and only gather food once you have all food upgrades (still get whatever wood you need though). Save a card and send fur trade with 4-5 minutes left in treaty.

I'd change his advice slightly to say you should learn one other civ's boom really well before playing brit, because getting used to vill distrib and herding micro will make it a smaller jump to cow micro. Then play brit until you can get 2400+ with them (you have to be really good with cowing to have even a chance with iro) Iro is hard partly because of firepit micro and partly because farms are big and work as both fattening areas and food gathering, so its easy to mess up placement and get cows/sheep not tasked to a farm or get vills stuck trying to get to them.

Well with furtrade you really have to have a good idea when to use it exactly, because if you send it at the wrong time you won't get enough gold to get through IV and V age and have enough left over to get the Imperial Capital upgrades.

?? are you suggesting to fur trade at fortress age?? this only seems useful in rush if you run low on coin

TacticalWillie:

Well with furtrade you really have to have a good idea when to use it exactly, because if you send it at the wrong time you won't get enough gold to get through IV and V age and have enough left over to get the Imperial Capital upgrades.

 *facepalm*
NEVER sent fur trade in age 3 :/ Never heard bullshit like that.
Send it 5-4 minuts before treaty ends.

TacticalWillie:

Iroquois is the hardest civ to boom with, you have to cow boom manage a fire-pit and the over population as well also time the fur trade correctly and you need alot of wood.

this...

I used to think simultaneous vill+settler wagon training was hard, until i tried iro. Really though, I'm almost certain that Iroquois is the hardest civ to play in nr40.

I always see people posting about booming and fur trade . What are both of these? Is booming when your economy gets good and whats fur trade 

booming is basically what you said. Your "boom" is the econ strategy you use. It is most commonly used in treaty, where there's a distinct economic buildup time.

Fur trade is a card available to France, Iro, and India civs. When it arrives, you lose all of your current food, but gain 25% more coin than you had food. A few other civs have similar cards which trade either food or coin for wood, and japan and china have a card to exchange export and coin (in opposite directions) 

nrsstewart:

What is the general order in difficulty of booms?

Since everyone has simply given you THE hardest boom, I'll attempt to give you the order from hardest to easiest in my experience, and from what is generally accepted. (I'll probably fail somewhere)

Iroquois - Most difficult to cow with because of farms, in addition you have to use the fire pit for vills.

China - Just a weird boom in general. Lots of odd things to remember that most civs don't posses.

Japan (Probably from lack of experience with the civ. As well as the fact I don't know the best boom with them, nor what is accepted as the best boom.)

British - Pretty obvious.

Aztecs - Can be difficult to keep max production from TC's. As well as getting the 10 vill card out at right time can be challenging.

Germans - I'll put this here even tho a lot of people would argue that this is a pretty easy boom, while it can be, to do the boom extremely effectively can be difficult.

Sioux - This boom is actually really strait forward, but because of fire pit I guess I will rate this here.

India - Obviously more difficult than euro civs. Most people start wrong and age really late I've noticed.

Dutch - More difficult than because of banks and a lot of vill switching between resources. As well it can be easy to fruit up getting 54 vills.

Russia - Probably as difficult as Dutch. Easy to house yourself and come up short of the required res to que vills.

Otto/Spain - Idk which is easier.

France/Port - No real explanation needed.