Imo if you are planning on just draining ur opponent then the best civ to use is Ports becuase behind a wall theyre probably the strongest civ due to organs and cass then the 20 range goons. i was just wondering if anyone else had a different opinion on what the best civ to drain people with is. 

Of all the civs even the op, i believe spain is the one that can drain them all.

Its funny how most overlook spain and their opness.

BuZz_D:

Of all the civs even the op, i believe spain is the one that can drain them all.

Its funny how most overlook spain and their opness.

well "most" are noobs.  i think anyone good knows spain is ridonkulously OP

 

So more like the best civ to camp? Ports ofc, right storm, remember when you used to do that?

idk what you're talking about men, you're obviously trolling

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i think china can stall any civ i had a game go past 4 hours china port vs france germany

i ended it by making handmortars(sieged stables) when i realized flamethrowers got me nowhere

Sioux....

With a mate to provide culverins and mortars, you will never get past wakina/rr...

Even with a 2++ K/D sioux eco will drain...

BuZz_D:

Of all the civs even the op, i believe spain is the one that can drain them all.

Its funny how most overlook spain and their opness.

Yeah I've seen my friend drain German players hard using Spain with nats on Andes.

I'd say a 150 pop army Unction'ed is pretty OP

And it's pretty hard to take down a good players missionaries due to the fact they keep them protected and in the right position, plus their speed about 8.5, Over 400 hps, and 10% ranged resistance. not bad. The only thing is if they do get attacked they spread out and run far away, sometimes double clicking is not enough to keep them organized. It's hard to keep them together sometimes when your so focused on microing a massive outpoped native army. missionaries can't stand ground as well because they dont have an advanced formation choice. They tend to wander into the battle and get killed. That's my problem, although very avoidable.

But yeah Port and Spain excel in draining opponents. i would assume the OP civs with good ecos would too: France, Russia, China and japan. France in particular, OP units and OP eco.

Iroquois, with there OP long range cannon, they can sit back and level everything that comes in. Not to mention there Musket Riders are so fast they can jump in between any horse charge and the Forest Prowlers are 22 range attack so you can just sit back and drink,

Martinelli's Gold Medal Organic Sparkling Cider, 25.4 oz,

 and watch there eco drain.

Oops something happened with the whole paste thing, I guess I should practice my pasting a little more.

Kingownage_the_3 (AOE):

And it's pretty hard to take down a good players missionaries due to the fact they keep them protected and in the right position, plus their speed about 8.5, Over 400 hps, and 10% ranged resistance. not bad. The only thing is if they do get attacked they spread out and run far away, sometimes double clicking is not enough to keep them organized. It's hard to keep them together sometimes when your so focused on microing a massive outpoped native army. missionaries can't stand ground as well because they dont have an advanced formation choice. They tend to wander into the battle and get killed. That's my problem, although very avoidable.

Its not that hard to keep missionaries organized. Just map them to a primary control group (I use 1) and periodically select them and move them immediately behind your army. It's also helpful for finding if any have died. Your church should be control grouped too so you can rebuild easily, and when new missionaries train, rather than trying to find them, select your missionary group, ctrl+shift+a to select all missionaries, remap them to the group and move them to the right spot.

Thranduil81:

Kingownage_the_3 (AOE):

And it's pretty hard to take down a good players missionaries due to the fact they keep them protected and in the right position, plus their speed about 8.5, Over 400 hps, and 10% ranged resistance. not bad. The only thing is if they do get attacked they spread out and run far away, sometimes double clicking is not enough to keep them organized. It's hard to keep them together sometimes when your so focused on microing a massive outpoped native army. missionaries can't stand ground as well because they dont have an advanced formation choice. They tend to wander into the battle and get killed. That's my problem, although very avoidable.

Its not that hard to keep missionaries organized. Just map them to a primary control group (I use 1) and periodically select them and move them immediately behind your army. It's also helpful for finding if any have died. Your church should be control grouped too so you can rebuild easily, and when new missionaries train, rather than trying to find them, select your missionary group, ctrl+shift+a to select all missionaries, remap them to the group and move them to the right spot.

that is exactly what i do whenever i play spain