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Okay guys, I've been testing out the Germans lately to see if they're a descent civ for me to play as, and I have some questions! 

1. So far, I've utilized the settler wagons, and they're great! In order to have a 100 pop army, I made 60 settlers(1 pop), and 20 settler wagons(which is max number you can make, 2 pop). Is this a good idea? Should I just max out all my settlers as well? 

2. Are War Wagons worth it? They seem pretty strong but it's also very expensive, in terms of resources and population(taking up 3 pop). So far I've ignored using them, so are these wagons good at all?

3. I've noticed that key German units cost more coin than food( dopples, skirms, and uhlans). Therefore, I tend to put more workers on coin than food. Is this a good idea or will it backfire?

4. Is it just me or do German units train slower compared to other civs?

5. Speaking of being slow, it also seems that Germans receive shipments slower than other civs. Is this true or am I just impatient? :P

Answers are greatly appreciated! Thanks! 

max out settlers and then delete 40 before treaty over. delete uhlans too. idk about war wagons, i use them in sup but not all that much in treaty. i try to use dopple for cav. but ww might be better wait for more replies. yeah german is coin heavy, you will need more on coin. german does have slower train time for some units (mainly dopple). i think all civs have the same shipment rate except spain which is faster. could be wrong though but i'm pretty sure. 

1. Your population is good and a good spot to start. 100 pop (60v 20sw) will assure you gather faster than most euro civs. If you start deleting, hitting close to 80 pop (40v 20sw) you begin to gather slow than Portuguese. Adjust accordingly to the vs you're vs, eg vs British, keeping a lot of vill pop can be advantageous, imo.

2. WW/skirm can be a good composition. Its easy to use, and can put up a good fight against most civs, but also needs artillery support. Dopp/uhlan/Skirm can work well without much artillery.

3. Germans units do cost more coin, so it can be a good idea to be gathering mostly coin, however if you're playing natives on Andes, more than 20 sw on food may be required, if you're not using natives, 16-18 sw on food will support their military.

4. Germans dopples train slower than most civs, about the same speed as Ottomans Abus guns. Their Skirms train the same as any other civ. On Andes with the native speed tech, the train speeds are almost unnoticeable.

5. Not 100% sure, but I think they do come in slower than normal civs, because they give Uhlans. I could be wrong, but it makes sense for balancing in Supremacy.

Hope this helps.

NamelessIam:

dops work better than ww.. make dop

Skirm/WW > Skirm/Dopp

Skirm/WW < Skirm/Dopp/Uhlan.

L2Play.

Answer to question 1) Yes, max out to your total villagers 119, your men are expense you need all the villagers you can get to keep up with there cost.

Answer to question 2) War Wagons, the best antihorse and cannon unit they have the highest attack and most hitpoints they are very OP, so yes they are worth it with any conposition of men your making.

Answer to question 3) Nah, just keep it 50-50% since war wagons are balanced and that is the most important unit thats all you need.

Answer to question 4) A bit slower.

Answer to question 5) Germans receive OP shipments that have ulhans inside them, so yes they will come a bit slower just because they are OP.

Glad I could answer all your questions. Have fun gaming

TacticalWillie:

Answer to question 1) Yes, max out to your total villagers 119, your men are expense you need all the villagers you can get to keep up with there cost.

Answer to question 2) War Wagons, the best antihorse and cannon unit they have the highest attack and most hitpoints they are very OP, so yes they are worth it with any conposition of men your making.

Answer to question 3) Nah, just keep it 50-50% since war wagons are balanced and that is the most important unit thats all you need.

Answer to question 4) A bit slower.

Answer to question 5) Germans receive OP shipments that have ulhans inside them, so yes they will come a bit slower just because they are OP.

Glad I could answer all your questions. Have fun gaming

NamelessIam:

who mentioned skirms? I said dops and ww. dop is more effective than ww.. l2Read.

Its irrelevant to compare units like this. Like Port musk has better stats than their Dragoon. Their Dragoon is still better BECAUSE of the roll it plays with their Skirmisher ect.

Pure Dopp > Pure WW if we're comparing stuff like conscripts, so I guess you would be right in that regard.

But again, L2Play TR, its not hard.