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  •  07-15-2012, 6:00 PM 961636
    scottp54 scottp54 is not online. Last active: 09-22-2013, 6:53 PM
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    Subject: how to beat the portuguese in nr 40/55

    well i mainly play as germans (who i think auto lose to ports, if otherwise tell me a strat) and french who semi lose (no garms). if u can please reccomend another civ for me to learn and throw a strat or two in, thanks.

    also mind throwing in a few civs i could learn to rush with and a strat or two with them becaus ei have never rushed before, and what their decks should look like? thanks all


    TacticalWillie:
    No pikes are not half as good as dopps, for one they don't have a giant OP sword do they? nooo they only have a silly looking stick with a knife on the end and they don't even have a cool looking hat either!
  •  07-15-2012, 6:22 PM 961644 in reply to 961636
    Lukas_L99 Lukas_L99 is not online. Last active: 01-19-2014, 5:55 PM
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    Subject: Re: how to beat the portuguese in nr 40/55

    In my opinion Brits do very well against Port. At the beginning you just push with musk/huss/mort and when you get the lbow card you play more defensively with lbow/goon/art. Lbows just decimate cass/goon and when he comes with his weak hussars just pull the lb back and kill them with goon and attack move. Your eco is also way better than the port's, and his only chance should be just really abusing his 50 range mortars to hold down your fb.

    But Brits are hard to play especially because of the cowboom, so i wouldn't recommend them to rather unexperienced players.


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  •  07-15-2012, 6:28 PM 961647 in reply to 961644
    Imperial Redcoat Imperial Redcoat is not online. Last active: 03-03-2013, 7:41 PM
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    Subject: Re: how to beat the portuguese in nr 40/55
    I think, though correct me if I'm wrong, that port weakness is similar in a way to spanish weakness. I.e, you need to split your army and divide their attention to beat them. 

    Since port almost always requires multiple unit types mixed together to be effective, it is hard for them to fight on multiple fronts.

    Again I'm no expert at andes nr40 games, so if I'm wrong no flame plz. Cool

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  •  07-15-2012, 6:33 PM 961650 in reply to 961636
    BlisteringFury BlisteringFury is not online. Last active: 06-21-2013, 7:46 PM
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    Subject: Re: how to beat the portuguese in nr 40/55
    Could just be OP civ :/

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  •  07-15-2012, 7:21 PM 961665 in reply to 961650
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    Subject: Re: how to beat the portuguese in nr 40/55

    Ports prolly just seem op because they are easy to use, and people can get pretty close to the max boom without being that good, and then ports have this awesome army...

    but honestly, they arent op, and theyre UP compared to half the other civs advantages.

    If you actually get good at the other civs... German/Britain, then you will be able to abuse their massive economies and overpop power to squish the Port enemy... problem is these civs are harder to boom with so it wil be harder for yall nubs to get the necessary eco to survive vs  a port.

    Brits beat port by having a better eco, and being able to use map natives consistently throughout the game, whereas ports wont be able to sustain nats very much at all.

    German beats Ports for the same reason, eco and native sustainability.

    Spain beats port cause their army is better, so long as the port isnt able to out run them and force spain to split their army.

    all the other non op civs lose to port, and france/china beat port, russia loses to port, and jap vs port i have no idea.

    I'm not talking about NR55 here.  last i checked port was insanely op in nr55.  but i neither care nor think you should either.  hue hue

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  •  07-15-2012, 7:55 PM 961668 in reply to 961665
    scottp54 scottp54 is not online. Last active: 09-22-2013, 6:53 PM
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    Subject: Re: how to beat the portuguese in nr 40/55
    StormComing:

    Ports prolly just seem op because they are easy to use, and people can get pretty close to the max boom without being that good, and then ports have this awesome army...

    but honestly, they arent op, and theyre UP compared to half the other civs advantages.

    If you actually get good at the other civs... German/Britain, then you will be able to abuse their massive economies and overpop power to squish the Port enemy... problem is these civs are harder to boom with so it wil be harder for yall nubs to get the necessary eco to survive vs  a port.

    Brits beat port by having a better eco, and being able to use map natives consistently throughout the game, whereas ports wont be able to sustain nats very much at all.

    German beats Ports for the same reason, eco and native sustainability.

    Spain beats port cause their army is better, so long as the port isnt able to out run them and force spain to split their army.

    all the other non op civs lose to port, and france/china beat port, russia loses to port, and jap vs port i have no idea.

    I'm not talking about NR55 here.  last i checked port was insanely op in nr55.  but i neither care nor think you should either.  hue hue

    idk average but i get around 498000 resources total each game. i tend not to use natives and not much cannon. will both those help? because i guess i can force my self to. which arty should i imperialise because i dont think (from previous experiance) that i can do culv mortar and horse gun. just not happening after i do uhlans ww skirms and dopps. i can imperialise like 1 or mayyyybe 2 more units max before 40 hits.also i tend to play nr 55 but am trying to move to 40 again because my friend suggested 55 and we stuck with it for like weeks of just nr 55 games nad it has made my nr 40 all soft and squishy Wink so im trying to get back. so my german eco isnt bad (also i saw a guy play dutch and he got the same eco as me, wtfff? any ideas about that?) also i delete to 70 normal villies right? and german army isnt over pop, at least not  when i do it.


    TacticalWillie:
    No pikes are not half as good as dopps, for one they don't have a giant OP sword do they? nooo they only have a silly looking stick with a knife on the end and they don't even have a cool looking hat either!
  •  07-15-2012, 8:03 PM 961670 in reply to 961668
    Imperial Redcoat Imperial Redcoat is not online. Last active: 03-03-2013, 7:41 PM
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    Subject: Re: how to beat the portuguese in nr 40/55
    scottp54:
    idk average but i get around 498000 resources total each game.
    No you don't.

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  •  07-15-2012, 8:18 PM 961672 in reply to 961636
    jayve98 jayve98 is not online. Last active: 09-07-2014, 8:59 PM
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    Subject: Re: how to beat the portuguese in nr 40/55

    http://www.youtube.com/user/StorminAOE3

    that will teach u a few booms though theyre pretty outdated for the most part theyre still effective especially at level 15 like u said u were. and btw storm i say port beats japs bc of their better culvs and insane organs. also long range goons to help keep daimyo/shogun down. flaming arrows cant beat the port art camp. scott u need to just watch some recs of good fightts cuz u obv have muc hto learn

     


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    The more costeffective army can win vs a more expensive (better unit) because they can just keep throwing them at the other player.

  •  07-15-2012, 8:26 PM 961673 in reply to 961670
    Imperial Redcoat Imperial Redcoat is not online. Last active: 03-03-2013, 7:41 PM
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    Subject: Re: how to beat the portuguese in nr 40/55
    I think scott=willie.

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  •  07-15-2012, 11:50 PM 961724 in reply to 961673
    Thranduil81 Thranduil81 is not online. Last active: 05-25-2013, 6:43 AM
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    Subject: Re: how to beat the portuguese in nr 40/55

    You should be able to get all 3 cannon to imp, plus your 4 main units, as well as heavy cannon and legendary nats by 40 as german. That link jayve gave has a german boom, which is a pretty good one. 2570 at 40, though it may be offline which inflates score a bit, idk. Once you get the hang of it, you should get 2250-2300, and slowly increase from there to 2400-2450 by 40. Still room to improve from there, but that's about the max until you're 1 lt+

  •  07-16-2012, 12:12 AM 961732 in reply to 961724
    jayve98 jayve98 is not online. Last active: 09-07-2014, 8:59 PM
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    Subject: Re: how to beat the portuguese in nr 40/55
    yeah its the boom i use for the most part maybe modified a little bit depending on map but i almost always get 2400 if im trying and 1450 if im doing well and 2500 if im doing well and i get good treasures/natural res and if im doing really well and get good treasures possibly an OP one and good natural resources ill get 2550,

    dcdonnie4:

    The more costeffective army can win vs a more expensive (better unit) because they can just keep throwing them at the other player.

  •  07-16-2012, 12:40 AM 961739 in reply to 961732
    KingOwnage2nd KingOwnage2nd is not online. Last active: 07-16-2012, 12:52 AM
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    Subject: Re: how to beat the portuguese in nr 40/55
    If your playing german on a 1v1 on andes, you should consistently aim for 2600+ once you`ve become familiar with the boom. I recently did a 1v1 german mirror with dicktator and we both boomed 2700 thought he didn't send team mills so he technically out boomed me. I'm sure 2800 is possible if you have a lame setup like a trade post set to wood and some op treasure ( that 500 coin one comes to mind).

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  •  07-16-2012, 1:32 AM 961742 in reply to 961739
    Milky__ Milky__ is not online. Last active: Tue, Dec 17 2013, 7:26 PM
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    Subject: Re: how to beat the portuguese in nr 40/55

    You should see the amount of eco whoring that can be done in some 3v3s... ger, brit, aztec is just insane eco wise. i think i hit 2700 without trade or estates purely because of team 3 vill, 2 sw, wood chopping. Would have been a 2500 boom normally.

    Same with ger, pre sure i got 2700 in a 3v3 with 3 hunts because of aztec and brit ally. 4bs0lut3ly 1ns4n3 m3n.

    Idgaf about nr 55 but basically what storm said. Port is the weakest top tier civ in terms of advantage abuse: if all the top tier civs were played properly, as well as a port playing properly (and by properly i mean really damn well), then port would lose to all top tier civs (Spain, Brit, Port, Ger, Iro). However, I think port is better at bashing all the other civs (non op/top tier), even better than spain tbh. 

    Of course you can get a port beating a brit or whatever, because there is so much variability in tr. I'll see if I can find that damn guide I was writing

    EDIT: http://forum.agecommunity.com/forums/1/944472/ShowThread.aspx

    Found it, hell I might even update it to include dutch or India or something tonight 

  •  07-16-2012, 2:00 AM 961744 in reply to 961739
    TacticalJoeL TacticalJoeL is not online. Last active: 07-16-2012, 3:11 AM
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    Subject: Re: how to beat the portuguese in nr 40/55
    you guys are big noobs obviously you make only war wagons and you will win. their ranged resistance is so high you can't lose to anything at a distance, and they have gun so you just kill melee units coming at you. your score should be probably about 3000 or so with germans if you are a noob at booming. i can consistantly get 3200

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  •  07-16-2012, 3:02 AM 961747 in reply to 961744
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    Subject: Re: how to beat the portuguese in nr 40/55

    TacticalJoeL:

    HAHAHAHAHA ****ing EPIC man. Fooled me.


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