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people say otto loose most mu but last few day i played vs a few good otto players , i won those games but were very close

what is the most effective way to counter otto who has natives to add anticav , assuming both players have equal gud artilary micro ?

also when otto player use husser(with some cav archer and jani) as anti cav than also it become quite chalanging , what is the best combo against it , as albus counter everything else except hand cav 

actually i just killed his embassy with mortots than husser did there work , what if embassy is very secured

i think albus counter all skim goon and art(to some extend)

i saw triple otto game by milky strom they did very well with otto  

Dragoons become rather irrelevant when you add natives into the mix, while still useful if your opponent makes a lot of cav.

That being said, Ottomans sort of gain a bit more military advantage in the natives vs some civs, but should still lose really, since their economy shouldn't stand up very well.

Ottomans win vs Aztecs, Dutch, and India when we add in natives, but still lose most of the other civs.

As for what to use against Abus/Native, well, it shouldn't be hard to push their slow training times with most civs using a Skirm/Nat/Cav combo, or you can play it safe with Skirm/Nat/Art, like British should do, abus are useless against longbows, and you could literally push with them vs ottomans. Anyway, the Ottoman will almost always lose because of economy in the nats.

LordStefanIII:

Dragoons become rather irrelevant when you add natives into the mix, while still useful if your opponent makes a lot of cav.

That being said, Ottomans sort of gain a bit more military advantage in the natives vs some civs, but should still lose really, since their economy shouldn't stand up very well.

Ottomans win vs Aztecs, Dutch, and India when we add in natives, but still lose most of the other civs.

As for what to use against Abus/Native, well, it shouldn't be hard to push their slow training times with most civs using a Skirm/Nat/Cav combo, or you can play it safe with Skirm/Nat/Art, like British should do, abus are useless against longbows, and you could literally push with them vs ottomans. Anyway, the Ottoman will almost always lose because of economy in the nats.

 

what if you dont have natives and fighting vs otto with natives , i remember milky once said to beat otto just super mass ski , but is that doesnt make you suseptible to husser spam , or otto eco cant allow them to make many husser 

LordStefanIII:

That is giving the Ottoman a free 26 population. You will lose.

if u had like 10x better art micro maybe not :D but yeah 9/10 u will lose that