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  •  08-10-2012, 3:51 PM 964451
    jayve98 jayve98 is not online. Last active: 09-07-2014, 8:59 PM
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    Subject: Oh the irony
    has anyone else noticed how 2 of the worst civs have better than their usualy chances against an op civ? like otto against chinese and azzies against russia. sure russia could mass strelets but that doesnt work nearly as well as skirms...and china keshiks suck and pikes get owned by abus so huss kill ckn...i just thought its kinda ironic how the 2 worst civs have their best chances against op civs

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    The more costeffective army can win vs a more expensive (better unit) because they can just keep throwing them at the other player.

  •  08-10-2012, 3:53 PM 964452 in reply to 964451
    LordStefanIII LordStefanIII is not online. Last active: 03/07/2014, 4:07 PM
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    Subject: Re: Oh the irony
    Umm... China mass chu u mass abus, u lose in economy gg?
  •  08-10-2012, 3:57 PM 964458 in reply to 964452
    jayve98 jayve98 is not online. Last active: 09-07-2014, 8:59 PM
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    Subject: Re: Oh the irony
    huss..but anyway im not saying they win those MUs just that imo theyre closer than most MUs of theirs

    dcdonnie4:

    The more costeffective army can win vs a more expensive (better unit) because they can just keep throwing them at the other player.

  •  08-10-2012, 3:59 PM 964460 in reply to 964458
    LordStefanIII LordStefanIII is not online. Last active: 03/07/2014, 4:07 PM
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    Subject: Re: Oh the irony
    Oh yes hussars, China still win spamming only chu, sorry.
  •  08-10-2012, 4:33 PM 964464 in reply to 964460
    jayve98 jayve98 is not online. Last active: 09-07-2014, 8:59 PM
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    Subject: Re: Oh the irony
    i know that china wins but otto has a better chance military wise than most MUs

    dcdonnie4:

    The more costeffective army can win vs a more expensive (better unit) because they can just keep throwing them at the other player.

  •  08-10-2012, 6:32 PM 964473 in reply to 964464
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    Subject: Re: Oh the irony

    jayve98:
    i know that china wins but otto has a better chance military wise than most MUs

    im not sure... u gona lost first battle in 2 sec.  Need to play defensive and micro A LOT.

    Or run a bit in the beging, get flanks and destroy china FBs fast.


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  •  08-10-2012, 7:13 PM 964478 in reply to 964473
    Milky__ Milky__ is not online. Last active: Tue, Dec 17 2013, 7:26 PM
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    Subject: Re: Oh the irony

    Otto probably lose to china harder than most of the tier 1 civs... brit, ger, spain, port, iro...... i don't know what you're trying to say here lol...

    as for aztec, yeah in a heads up fight. Russia won't play heads up

    Saying that, aztec will almost certainly win the first fight. from there it's a matter of russia taking the map, which they can do better than aztec. idk about this one tho.

    and, how do you think aztec are better against russia than port, brit, spain, iro, ger.... all of these civs beat russia. 

  •  08-10-2012, 7:17 PM 964480 in reply to 964464
    Milky__ Milky__ is not online. Last active: Tue, Dec 17 2013, 7:26 PM
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    Subject: Re: Oh the irony

    jayve98:
    i know that china wins but otto has a better chance military wise than most MUs

    mmm no. Otto lose mostly due to better skirm/goon combos. China doesn't have a great goon, but chu ko nu cav is just epic. The cav army is just insanely good and will destroy otto np.

    To be honest, I think otto stand a better chance against ger, iro and milky's brit. 

  •  08-10-2012, 7:23 PM 964482 in reply to 964478
    HunterCallahan HunterCallahan is not online. Last active: 09-13-2013, 10:24 AM
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    Subject: Re: Oh the irony
    I don't think he's saying that otto and aztec are good vs some op civs, so much as that the ottos and aztecs fair better in those MUs than they do in other MUs.

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  •  08-10-2012, 8:15 PM 964489 in reply to 964482
    Milky__ Milky__ is not online. Last active: Tue, Dec 17 2013, 7:26 PM
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    Subject: Re: Oh the irony

    Which is what I'm adressing. Otto get slaughtered by good skirm cav comps, and china has one of the best. they do not fair well at all, and as i said otto does better against other civs than china

    but yeah, aztecs probably do better against russia than against other civs

    i just strongly disagree with otto 

  •  08-10-2012, 9:21 PM 964496 in reply to 964489
    LordStefanIII LordStefanIII is not online. Last active: 03/07/2014, 4:07 PM
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    Subject: Re: Oh the irony

    Ottoman vs Germans fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

    I played it vs Hannoob before, he killed down to 70-65 villies, and just out mass hardcore. Same Idea can go for China, and chu are bad ass when it comes to skirm wars. Also Ottomans can lose hardcore to Dopp/Uhlan/Skirm, just imagine the epic china cav...

  •  08-10-2012, 10:25 PM 964505 in reply to 964496
    0xyM0r0n 0xyM0r0n is not online. Last active: 09-25-2013, 10:39 PM
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    Subject: Re: Oh the irony

    China can beat many civs with their op chukonus AND they get consulate units: anticav (doppelsoldner) these will shred otto hussar while chukonu's kill abus guns, hussars to kill abus from brit, falconets as well....

    Also, sure russia might make strelet then again, they can run around making forts and orpi-spamming till you run out of coin also, blockhouse cannon is another thing that wrecks aztecs.

    if ur worried about stealthed units(Jags, coyote), send in one or two spy's as a euro civ to scout out(good LOS and can see stealth). Don't make spy-box it only works against tactical willie & conscripts, he's afraid of it and pested me, or he's never online. <------ use spies ONLY if explorer is busy they take 2 population space use them wisely.


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  •  08-10-2012, 11:02 PM 964509 in reply to 964505
    Milky__ Milky__ is not online. Last active: Tue, Dec 17 2013, 7:26 PM
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    Subject: Re: Oh the irony
    skhsri:

    China can beat many civs with their op chukonus AND they get consulate units: anticav (doppelsoldner) these will shred otto hussar while chukonu's kill abus guns, hussars to kill abus from brit, falconets as well....

    Also, sure russia might make strelet then again, they can run around making forts and orpi-spamming till you run out of coin also, blockhouse cannon is another thing that wrecks aztecs.

    if ur worried about stealthed units(Jags, coyote), send in one or two spy's as a euro civ to scout out(good LOS and can see stealth). Don't make spy-box it only works against tactical willie & conscripts, he's afraid of it and pested me, or he's never online. <------ use spies ONLY if explorer is busy they take 2 population space use them wisely.

    I don't think any unit that russia has can stop jags. haven't really played this MU

  •  08-11-2012, 1:08 AM 964517 in reply to 964509
    Imperial Redcoat Imperial Redcoat is not online. Last active: 03-03-2013, 7:41 PM
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    Subject: Re: Oh the irony
    I think strelets, musk win cost effectively. Especially considering that these ranged units can abuse trees, ponds, walls, etc. to hit and run.

    Mass musk/strelet with cossack flank will beat aztecs. Aztecs suck.

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  •  08-11-2012, 3:05 AM 964527 in reply to 964517
    Milky__ Milky__ is not online. Last active: Tue, Dec 17 2013, 7:26 PM
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    Subject: Re: Oh the irony

    This is treaty

    you don't upgrade cav against aztec

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