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alright i have seen ppl using this card in supremacy occasionally. so i was thinking. ports suck right? what if you combined medicine card with their multiple tcs early on? i tried it worked really good. if you get rushed your screwed becasue ports are up. but honestly when ppl see ports theyre like oh crapy ports. i can just chill. you can max out vils so fast doing this. is this at all viable at the sarg-ms level?

It probably is at that level. But that card really just makes them worse. Now you're producing vills out of 2 tcs even faster, investing even more resources into vills, and less into military. Therefore making their early game weaker really.

what about with other civs? i've seen ppl use it as brits, etc

It doesn't really make sense to me. Vill cards are obviously better.

which is why i said for ports originally. no vil cards...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but medicine affects "Villager" units, and fishing boats have a "villager" tag.

So combined with Schooners and Advanced Dock, it would make a Portuguese fish boom very effective.

The only civ you use the Medicine card with is Iroquois. Why you may ask, well  because Iroquois have two medicine cards + Pioneers, Warrior Culture, Kinship Ties. They are able to spam out OP villagers + villagers can build any building however useless on the battle field, so if your running low on food you can easily drop a farm out and gather a little food. Just make sure you ctrl group it as hussars may try to kill them so you will need to have them kill the hussars off

It is a useless card, there is no ocation where that card is worth the shipment, don't watch the pros of the card, you're better off thinking there are much more better options for a colonial card than medicine.

It's pointless to send, imo. With 2 tcs in colonial you're already going to be producing villagers faster than your opponent. I'd rather send a food gathering upgrade.

Or even 700 food. 

I dunno if port are as UP as some people say. Like, I hear all the time about how UP port are, but that's just their style. They obviously need a buff, but it doesn't need to be as significant as people say. For instance, the fp did it really well with the hunting dogs. They are just different, more passive than most if not all civs. If anyone plays LoL, think of port as Karthus. Survive to late game and you're gonna have a good time. Obviously getting there is the problem.

Medicine is a waste on any civ in any game type. 

TacticalWillie:

The only civ you use the Medicine card with is Iroquois. Why you may ask, well  because Iroquois have two medicine cards + Pioneers, Warrior Culture, Kinship Ties. They are able to spam out OP villagers + villagers can build any building however useless on the battle field, so if your running low on food you can easily drop a farm out and gather a little food. Just make sure you ctrl group it as hussars may try to kill them so you will need to have them kill the hussars off

 OMG that is so wrong, Willie. I thought you would have known that villagers can melee other units to death quite effectively. 

The Last Star Ruyter:

TacticalWillie:

The only civ you use the Medicine card with is Iroquois. Why you may ask, well  because Iroquois have two medicine cards + Pioneers, Warrior Culture, Kinship Ties. They are able to spam out OP villagers + villagers can build any building however useless on the battle field, so if your running low on food you can easily drop a farm out and gather a little food. Just make sure you ctrl group it as hussars may try to kill them so you will need to have them kill the hussars off

 OMG that is so wrong, Willie. I thought you would have known that villagers can melee other units to death quite effectively. 

+1

Once a friend of me meleed my 2 heavy cannons (pretty much the key of my army comp) to death with 4 villies lol... Was so lame.

@OP: The problem is that ports can't even afford producing villagers non-stop from 2 TC's. When you send medicine you'll pretty much produce villagers at the same pace (aka as fast as your income allows you to). Also with "can't afford" I don't mean that they can't skip everything else and produce 2 vills at a time (they surely can), I mean that if they invest so much in villagres, that they can't possibly defend any aggression from any civ.

to the orginial poster.

You have had many responses here ALL by newbs nubs noobs (except Jerom is good).  Worst of all is that dyslexic crack baby, stefnap whom I have clearly instructed to immediately dissallow his life-partner, Darrell, from abusing Stef's orifices meant for bodily excretion.

What they ALL failed to mention is that the card medicine is bugged and doesn't even give you the faster villager rate that it states.  This was never fixed properly.

Even if it was not bugged it would be a mistake to play it.

Take it out of your deck regardless of what civ you use.

Jerom:

The Last Star Ruyter:

TacticalWillie:

The only civ you use the Medicine card with is Iroquois. Why you may ask, well  because Iroquois have two medicine cards + Pioneers, Warrior Culture, Kinship Ties. They are able to spam out OP villagers + villagers can build any building however useless on the battle field, so if your running low on food you can easily drop a farm out and gather a little food. Just make sure you ctrl group it as hussars may try to kill them so you will need to have them kill the hussars off

 OMG that is so wrong, Willie. I thought you would have known that villagers can melee other units to death quite effectively. 

+1

Once a friend of me meleed my 2 heavy cannons (pretty much the key of my army comp) to death with 4 villies lol... Was so lame.

@OP: The problem is that ports can't even afford producing villagers non-stop from 2 TC's. When you send medicine you'll pretty much produce villagers at the same pace (aka as fast as your income allows you to). Also with "can't afford" I don't mean that they can't skip everything else and produce 2 vills at a time (they surely can), I mean that if they invest so much in villagres, that they can't possibly defend any aggression from any civ.

Actually I was saying a villager can build any building on the battle field, as Iroquois infantry can build military related stuff but not farms and such. The OP villagers can build "useless" buildings such as farms/markets/plantation and use them to clutter up the battle field, as well the extra farms make some cows and in the middle of the battle grab acouple villagers get the food from the cows and spam more villagers

TacticalWillie:

Jerom:

The Last Star Ruyter:

TacticalWillie:

The only civ you use the Medicine card with is Iroquois. Why you may ask, well  because Iroquois have two medicine cards + Pioneers, Warrior Culture, Kinship Ties. They are able to spam out OP villagers + villagers can build any building however useless on the battle field, so if your running low on food you can easily drop a farm out and gather a little food. Just make sure you ctrl group it as hussars may try to kill them so you will need to have them kill the hussars off

 OMG that is so wrong, Willie. I thought you would have known that villagers can melee other units to death quite effectively. 

+1

Once a friend of me meleed my 2 heavy cannons (pretty much the key of my army comp) to death with 4 villies lol... Was so lame.

@OP: The problem is that ports can't even afford producing villagers non-stop from 2 TC's. When you send medicine you'll pretty much produce villagers at the same pace (aka as fast as your income allows you to). Also with "can't afford" I don't mean that they can't skip everything else and produce 2 vills at a time (they surely can), I mean that if they invest so much in villagres, that they can't possibly defend any aggression from any civ.

Actually I was saying a villager can build any building on the battle field, as Iroquois infantry can build military related stuff but not farms and such. The OP villagers can build "useless" buildings such as farms/markets/plantation and use them to clutter up the battle field, as well the extra farms make some cows and in the middle of the battle grab acouple villagers get the food from the cows and spam more villagers

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